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Piper — Thu, 18 Mar 2010 18:34:55 GMT

I am currently a Christian who is starting to look seriously at other religions and other paths. What I have found so far, is that Wicca seems to say all of the things that I already believe (and yes, I believe them as a Christian.) I do find the idea that there is only one way to find the divine to be ludicrous, and just to point out, I would say only half of my current church really believes that; however, the half that does is a very loud group. I am finding more and more, that with Christianity, I have to constantly translate what is being said, to what I believe. Because while I can believe in Jesus' teachings, I can't always believe in the churches teachings. I am finding in Wicca, there is a lot less translating that needs to be done. We are one, the kingdom of Heaven is Now, we just have to open ourselves to it. Thank you for this discussion.

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Troy — Tue, 16 Mar 2010 02:07:51 GMT

For the past few months I have been searching for a divine connection. I went to this youth group thingy for christians at a local church because most of my friends and family are christians, but, i didnt feel comfortable. It, for some reason, didnt feel right. Reading about 20 articles online about wicca has given me an insight on wicca, it made me feel like it is the right choice. I know there isnt a right choice, but to me this feels right. I want to pursue it, but my mother being a christian, i cannot. SHe has condemned it pretty much. Taking away my computer because she doesnt want me on these site because she believes it all demonic and satanic. I have no idea what to do, when i try to talk to her she starts getting all hysterical and walks away in a rage or something. I get frustrated but i just sit there in shock. if anyone has any suggestions, can you email me at dont_talk_to_bananas@hotmail.com Yea i know weird email but it was a friends idea. Like even know i have to be careful, almost got caught. If she were to see that i was on this site i would be in huge trouble. But again, that is my email, and ill be looking for suggestions.

Comment on The "sin" of Witchcraft?

Kat — Mon, 08 Mar 2010 10:00:24 GMT

"Only the Creator has the power to be God; looking to anything, or anyone, else for salvation is literally a dead end. This includes anything that is deemed "more important right now" than worship and obedience to the only true God, or worshiping the true God in a manner contrary to His Word"

By your own words you just stated that any Christian who prays to Jesus will not be saved because Jesus is the son of the creator & not the creator himself. In the Holy Bible Wasn't it Jesus who died to provide salvation to all who choose to believe? Since he died in this manner he is considered to be part of the "Trinity" (along with the Holy Spirit) of your "one true God", so actually your "one true God" is technically 3. If you say "The Lord's Prayer" you pray asking for protection & guidance from "The Father, The Son, & The Holy Spirit" not just to the Creator. Does that then mean that your worship is worthless now in "God's sight" since you are now praying & worshiping 2 others besides Himself?
Though your bible quotes support what you're saying they are only from the OT & are out of context. Those who use Bible quotes as support for their "only way" belief should be aware just as many Bible quotes can be used to support opposing views.

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Rose — Mon, 08 Mar 2010 03:56:24 GMT

Wow! Having been an "Xian" for many years I can understand your plight. I know how dogmatic and broken this religion, that speaks of having access to a love that surpasses undertanding, can be. It makes me sad. I will try to pray that your mother will show you real Spirit-inspired love and understanding and embrace you for who you are.

Unfortunately too many Xians turn to dogma and fear, and skip the love, patience, gentleness, kindness etc. So sad. I guess I'm one of those rarities who really believes that those who seek find, who knock have the door opened and God is big enough to embrace all people's varied ways of searching a.k.a religion.(and yes, I agree with Kardia the Holy Spirit is "she" not "it")
I enjoy this blog and my own path is enriched from what I learn from your paths. Peace.

Comment on The "sin" of Witchcraft?

Aiden — Sat, 06 Mar 2010 14:53:12 GMT

I'm glad someone could find it. Thanks Kardia

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Zoey — Sat, 06 Mar 2010 06:55:21 GMT

The Creator, the God of Israel, the God of The Holy Bible, made all that exists, including all of the living or lifeless things, or mere ideas (i.e. any political philosophy that one lives by that is contrary to the Word of God, or any science that denies the existence of the Creator of all natural laws of science) that humans have made into "gods" - but which in fact are all merely objects created by the Creator.

Only the Creator has the power to be God; looking to anything, or anyone, else for salvation is literally a dead end. This includes anything that is deemed "more important right now" than worship and obedience to the only true God, or worshiping the true God in a manner contrary to His Word

"Other gods" have a contagious worthlessness - those who worship worthless gods become worthless in God's sight:

"Behold, you are nothing, and your work is nought; an abomination is he who chooses you." (Isaiah 41:24 RSV)

"But The Lord is the true God; He is the living God and the everlasting King. At His wrath the earth quakes, and the nations cannot endure His indignation. Thus shall you say to them: "The gods who did not make the heavens and the earth shall perish from the earth and from under the heavens." (Jeremiah 10:10-11 RSV)

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Kardia — Fri, 05 Mar 2010 05:09:54 GMT

If there are any modern Bibles with this translation I am not aware of. them You would need Bible software that contained the scriptures in their original languages, then Greek and Hebrew lexicons to help you translate. Pharmacopoeia is actually the Greek word that was used when that original passage was translated from Hebrew to Greek. It refers to a person who dealt with poisonous herbs and the closest English translation is "poisoner". The passage was condemning individuals who used herbs or plants in a harmful way and not those who used them to help or heal.

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Aiden — Fri, 05 Mar 2010 02:49:37 GMT

It was a bit my sister came across in her studies. I'm so sorry I can't help you hon

Comment on Different Views of Christians and Pagans...

Kristin Rosemoon — Thu, 04 Mar 2010 19:56:43 GMT

The problem is the three big religions all believe that their way is the true and ONLY way to heaven. The ironic part is they all ideally worship the same God, they even recognize the same prophets and teachers, but still they see themselves as different and separate. Now if these three religions cannot find a middle ground and try to see eye to eye, that certainly doesn't bode well for religions OUTSIDE of these big three. Until the Christians, Jews and Muslims can fix their differences and come together in peace, Pagans, Buddhists, Hindus and all other religious faiths will NEVER be "right". It's going to take many more years before the realization finally hits everyone that the one Divine God/dess is infinitely beyond just one religion. Until that time we continue to worship alone or in small groups just as "witches" have for centuries. Blessed be all.

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Spider Paradigm — Thu, 04 Mar 2010 18:34:55 GMT

I believe it says no other gods before Him not besides. That means that He is the God of Gods. If you do some study of ancient texts, that has been a big thing among the ancient gods. Anu or Anna was the God of Gods, the Father of the other Gods, but he gave the godship to his son Enlil. It was stolen and then fought over. This title has always been a big deal among the gods, just look at the story of Marduk. I don't think this commandment means that the Hebrews weren't supposed to have any other gods, they just weren't supposed to hold any higher than JHVH, but Christians do that every day by holding Y'SHUA in equal, if not higher, ranking.